Yeah, this gun is a hot mess. (That's $1,134 in today's . Add to Wish List. Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. While Colt limited some options for the new model, they more than made up for it with the improvements. Colt tells us the Pythons have been in production since November in order to fill the supply chain before the announcement. Colt told me that they assumed the side plates had not been properly tightened from the factory. Different Colt catalogs throughout the decades described them as there to reduce weight or to dissipate heat. Also have a S&W Model 629 with a polished trigger. That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. They were put there because they look cool. I owned a 6 inch blue and 4 inch nickle and willfully parted with both. Customization * * * * * Click here to view our other Live Auctions! The single-action pull of the old Pythons and the OP was 3 poundsclean, crisp and perfect for those wanting to shoot bullseye (which was pretty much the only competition to be found back in 1955, the first year of Python production). I find it on muzzle brakes. Man, it was atrocious. The Python is cool. Excellent quality, great 178 grain bullet. Considering my experience with the King Cobra, and how well Id see the Pythons hold up during this review, I have no concern about the end-shake growing to an unacceptable level anytime soon. Quality control now is heavily in the engineering and proactive assembly staging. I shoot it regularly and its still like a dream. Yes. Even with the old Pythons, Colt made around 65 guns a day at their peak production. In a fascinating little bit of arithmetic, he would pay the same amount for the new Python in 2020. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. Tactically- or in the field- it wont do anything a Ruger GP100 wont do Its not blued, but its the best brushed stainless on the market. Did some hunting on the net. Ive been waiting with great anticipation for a new 4 stainless. The new Colt Python, a revolver brought back from the dead. The worst shooting group was also an Armscor 158 gr FMJ round. Im currently unaware of any major holster manufacturers making well-fitted holsters for this revolver, so if any of you know of one, let us know in the comments. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. I own both the old and the new Python. I couldnt hit the bank fast enough. The Volcanic was basically a lever action pistol. I assume no, but have not seen it stated. It appears the sights are interchangeable, although obviously they are at different heights. News, Extras, Handguns, Revolvers. After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. real. Ive only had it to the range once. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. Ill also guess that it was easier to make this system than the old, from a manufacturing standpoint. Serial number range is PY2052XX, and there is already a "U" or "J"marking inside the crane that I remember, so it was supposed to be of the fixed models for the initial issues I believe. By Bob Campbell Published on February 12, 2020 in Firearms Recently, a friend remarked that the new Colt Python, at $1,399 MSRP, could not be as good as the older Pythons. I prefer a S&W .44 magnum. Including inflation (and depending +/- on the decade), the price today is comparable to the Python of yesteryear. The new rear sight is tucked into the gun with the familiar long leaf, terminating with a top screw changing elevation, and the tiny side screw altering the windage via a thin black blade. I am looking forward to seeing more posts by you as soon as possible! Definitely nice to see the wheel gun aficionados get a gun that actually justifies their love of the system. Great gun I never should have sold. But it is more utilitarian. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. 5.1 oz. Dont care to hear about 10mm. Nice gun-nice review. Altamont makes some grips for the GP100 that look great, and really class the gun up. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. Thanks for the review. Instead, they went with a transfer bar system. Really. Fantastic handling dynamics. Many folks think that Colt has lost the level of expertise and attention to detail necessary to produce that finish. My contact there said it was to comply with minimal barrel length restrictions in Canada. I didnt expect high marks in this category. Theres just something about seeing her petite self (with ponytail and shooter cap) holding big gun downrange and sending hot lead onto steel that makes me smile. Weight: 46 oz. This is especially true of the 6 model. The .357 Magnum can be a painful handful in a lightweight, snub-nosed revolver. Unfortunately, there was an almost four month gap between when I got to shoot the 6 gun and the shorter barreled model. But theres only one way to find out. . Ive looked it over and compared it to an original Python and theres very little firing pin protrusion compared to the original. Im an admitted Glock fanboi with a bias for 1911s, but theres something about a handsome wheelgun that just brings out the nostalgia. When I get my government check, Ill spend it on a Python. The consistent and excellent result of all of the guns put a gun-nerd grin on my face. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. A wide spur, checkered hammer and grooved, curved trigger provided maximum control and fast lock time. Lots of great detail, good pics, and I think a honest critical analysis of what you really saw vs Internet myth or focusing on early production miscues. The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. When I got the gun back from the factory the gouges and tool marks were down to scratches and it fired consistently, not accurately. I was already shooting one of the guns, and talked with other folks who were shooting them as well. Once the gun fires, theres no reason to carefully bring the trigger forward. Overall * * * * * H&G #43 is a 160 grain. Find More at: https://www.patreon.com/GoldenWebb/ Please SUBSCR Show more Shop the GoldenWebb store Cowboy Beach Towel $30.99. LoL. However, Colt took the. If you have missed out on this auction or are looking for a particular firearmcontact us. That they came out with improper assembly itself is a joke. Great review. And now the firing ping pushes far enough forward to strike primers with the requisite force and distance to detonate primers reliably. Now it looks fantastic and it functions properly. Never enough. Perhaps because of the dirty Harry movies and others. The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. I tested the new Python next to the original Python. Glad to see all is well, and I really enjoyed this review. Which is it? I dont understand how thats even possible, and Id probably the be the guy to argue that its not. I second the It was addressed in the article comment. Fails to fire about half the time (light primer strikes). Every other round fell either on or between those two extremes. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. When I started this review, I hoped to have both the 6 and 4.25 guns on hand. As I said in my King Cobra review, my dad carried a stainless Python, so the Python wasnt just some other gun to me. They were one of the reason I picked an Anaconda back in the early 90s for my first wheel gun, over a S&W or Ruger. Love my New Python. Can you recommend anyone to do this work on say, a new 4.25 Colt Python? Reliability? Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. And, no, I dont consider the Volcanic to be a practical semi-auto because its a weird hybrid thing that doesnt fit into any modern handgun category. I put the full 1,000 rounds I originally intended to shoot through two guns through one single 6 gun. But aint nothin wrong with some .45 ACP in a good 1911 or a Glock-style pistol (e. g. Ruger SR45). Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment. Even still, they currently have an 11,000 unit production backlog. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. Putting the Python up against any other brand next with your eyes closed? Not saying that S&W and Ruger, the two big players in that space, are bad by any means (theyre not!). You cannot get a new Python with an 8" barrel or blue steel. On and on, this crap is seemingly everywhere on guns now. Capacity: 6 rds. use the Glock. (I am quite proud of how nicely I was able to polish and re-blue the hammer: unless you know that I did that, you would never notice it or think that it was anything other than factory original.). Accuracy. We were allowing the trigger to fully return, are aware that trigger reset wont happen unless thats done. Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? Its the best! A slight change in grip and trigger guard geometry allows better control firing heavy loads. These days, high performance JHPs mean that while semi-autos still cant keep up with enormous hunting cartridge revolvers, they are more than good enough to compete against .38 SPL self-defense revolvers. I shot the heck out of one 6 gun, but my friend also allowed me to photograph and measure several other new Pythons that came in. Just something about a huge revolver.. But they will be more affordable as time goes. In single action, the triggers average was 4 lbs 5 oz. This of course was way before the internet and I was frustrated. Another exciting aspect and big reason why rosin is gaining popularity is its versatility. In 1980 I saw a sidebar ad in one of the gun mags with a photo of the newly available 8 barrel. Rising to the top in a single year is . Frame Material: Stainless Steel Yes a example that didnt have the problem that many other examples did, just google New Colt Pythons problems,5 to 6 pages should get the point across. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. I read what I thought you meant rather than what you wrote, because what you wrote is dumb. Steel revolvers like this one are just worth the price. I dont care for the difficulty I read about getting in touch with them. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? Colt in the past 40 years or so quality control lacks or is fairly non existent,can they be corrected yes but at a price and one shouldnt have to with what colt charges for their product. Have you looked into what could be causing it? As much as I bristle at that (I shoot the heck out of finely finished guns all the time), Im afraid theyre right. In double action, the lowest trigger pull of either gun was 8 lbs. The original Pythons were expensive and genuinely premium pieces, this is just overpriced average (and thats assuming they really have fixed the reliability issues). I was also considering a high polish prior to nickle boron and then B coverage. The Python is the only revolver Ive ever considered paying so much for. Big black maw waiting to destroy my soul down to the sub atomic level. I am on my second new python if there were only 25 returned why did it take 3 months to get to me? Colt Python 6 On the 4.25 gun, I found the screw a little too loose. Please do call them back and let us know what they said. Colt has revived an iconic and superb firearm with the 2020 Python. The only way to get a double action gun back in the game is to get that trigger forward as fast as possible. The subject comes up sometimes when re-finishing post-64 Winchester 94s. I would guess 1/3rd of the cost of the gun more, and very few would be released. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But Im happy with it. The new Pythons didnt need thread locker. I understand that there was some criticism of the frame in the early models. You have entered an incorrect email address! Be advised, I did see a couple of people slowly let the trigger out, and then observe that the cylinder would freeze when they tried to bring it back in. The first python had light strikes, gouges on the crown and tool marks inside the barrel. Once the hammer is released from the trigger, it rotates forward striking the transfer bar transferring energy to the firing pin to ignite the cartridge in the chamber. It also has the 4.25 inch barrel. The same feeler gauge that measured .003 wouldnt quite fit in the new Python. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. Rather, I like a full underlug that extends toward the muzzle and stops just short, angling up to the muzzle, like Ruger GP100 and Taurus revolvers. Despite some very heavy hand loads. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? Colt certainly sent out guns that were defective. The Python grips never fit my hand right, and Ive never seen a Colt yet that could hold a candle to a S&W as far as triggers go. I stared at that picture for months deciding that I had to own one of those guns. We have 100s of Collector Grade firearms (not on auction) in our inventory and available for . They just needed to be put on right in the first place. try desantis holster hybrid. After closing, it would again fire the first round, and lock up again. Is their a reason why Colt cant put the same surface on the new hammers that the original Pythons had? Colt has changed from a manufacturing company to a brand marketing company, sadly the prancing pony isnt what it used to be and made its name on, pass. Python trigger is smoother by a very very large margin. The Pythons barrel is marked simply with the snake styled C in Colt and the location of manufacture on one side and Python .357 Magnum on the other. Oh, and the Official Police? I never understood it. Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. Its my BBQ gun. 15 18 comments Is it a consistent weight, or is it somewhere between 7 and 9 and a half pounds? Thing is I dont want to face down a 400 lb. Not because I dont like it, because everybody else around me does. Measured over 10 pulls of two different guns, theres all of 1.3 oz of difference. If you dont own revolvers you have a serious hole in your handgun battery. I have to say I was surprised to see Colt bringing the Python back. At $1,499 MSRP (for both barrel lengths), the new Python is way cheaper than the old ones 4.25-inch barreled new Python, Federal 125-grain .357 Magnum, 25-yard bench rest. As a gunsmith, I find thread locker in more and more and more places on modern firearms. Even if it was mechanically sound, it looks like a plastic version of a Python rather than a real thing. i have one it is great!!!! After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. Im happy that you simply shared this useful info with us. And high-qualityrosinis just that. Good call Colt, good call. The 6 model has the traditional three cut-outs in the rib, and the 4.25 has the two sections more traditional to the 4 older models. I much prefer a .44 or .45 caliber. I put an extremely wide range of ammunition through these three guns. I tested the end-shake with three different new Pythons and compared them to several old Pythons, including an unfired 4 gun. Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. I COULD get one with my theoretical porkulus cheque. Prior to the development of modern hollow-points even the good old .45 AARP had issues when compared against the monster cartridges you can load into a revolver frame. So far the ones Ive seen are selling for over retail sometimes a lot over. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. i left vietnam in jan of 72 and at the end of jan i bought my first 6 blue python and still have to today and i can only say the the python is the greatest handgun ive ever had. Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. Definitely the most in-depth complete review Ive seen so far on the new gun. Much for the better. You made my heart flutter a bit with that description. Like from an 80s movie (or Stranger Things) where the trusty, crusty Sheriff ventures into the dark woods with his smokewagon in hand. I bet I thumbed back a Python hammer 20,000 times, easy, and let it down on a live round hundreds of times as well, it was definitely a non-problem, why was it fixed? So I can forgive the differences. Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks Enjoyed reading your review (youre not a Colt fan at all, are you?). He also very generously allowed me to photograph, measure, and generally play with the more than a dozen varied original model Pythons he owned. Reliability * * * * * And then, in 2020, Colt released the best stainless steel revolver theyve ever made. Well-written and thorough. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. For any mechanical issue, they should have it returned to you within 30 days. Width: 1.55 in. I can see where the love of the old pythons come from, but these arent the old guns. 3/4 underlug. This releases the front sight, which can then be replaced with a different front sight. Buy Colt Python 2020 ENGRAVED Royal Snake Scale by Altamont 4.25" .357 Mag: GunBroker is the largest seller of Revolvers Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 973467538 . There was a small bur around the firing pin hole that would stage on the fired case. I carry my four inch gun from time to time. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. Back in the day I used both eagle and mustang grips, lots of sanding and then a nice finish . I find it in the barrel-to-action threads on some modern rifles. It deserves all the hype created by its release. The new Python is built out of stronger stainless steel than the originals and is available with a 3 in (7.6 cm), 4.25 in (10.8 cm) or 6 in (15 cm) barrel. Colt's Manufacturing Company LLC Colt Speaks Justin Baldini,. "The funny thing. I said double action revolvers. Gives real fans an option, at least. I think its worth it to pay 1500 for a stainless gun manufactured to such high standards. kinks have been revealed and fixed. But there is something about a Python. I believe Colt also did some internal work around the hand on the new Pythons fix, muzzle work too. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. I removed an additional 0.010 inches of material from the surface of the hammer that rests against the receiver and voila! Width: 1.55 in. I was thrilled to find a new Python at Cabelas. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. At that time you could still handle the gun without a trigger lock. Im curious if you still feel this way a year and half later? Not to mention that this is Colt desperately trying to gain its following back after giving most of the civilian market the finger for years. They could be made to be the target pistol in the US market unless S&W brought back the Model 41. I love it. I couldnt believe Colt would let this gun out. There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. But other than that there dont seem to be any big noticeable changes. I like and own both revolvers and semi-autos. Re the group: this is why reviewers include the calipers in the picture, so people can see theres no shenanigans. In fact I prefer S&W revolvers to any other. None of us were experiencing any issues at all. (Photo: Colt) The hand-filling 8-inch Colt Anaconda for 2021 has an. Hunt deer humanely at distances of 100 yards Id go with Ruger .44 SBH with a scope ( I have one). This was going to be my first revolver. I was unusually emotionally invested in an inanimate object, not for the object itself, but for the memories it evoked. The original in 1955 had a flat leaf style mainspring like the Trooper and not a plunging type. But that all goes out the window with hand polishing. The new models mainspring is a departure, but not a huge one. That concerned me because, if it was an old model Cobra, that would be the maximum end-shake we want to see from the factory. Snarky comment aside, thanks for the review. 5 shot .45 Colt capable of safely launching the Ruger Only loads. Ok While not a big fan of obsolescent wheel guns, there is something about the Python and he Rhino that warms the dried up black walnut I call a heart. But how many of those turds floating in swimming pools are actually just Baby Ruth chocolate bars? Got to understand the action and stick with it. The vents do look pretty cool. But its never bad to have another player, especially when the product is that good, and according to this review, the product *is* that good. The problems were seen in guns either straight out of the box or having only been handled by Colt people (the SHOT show debacle). Nah. Got my 686 as an OSP color guard trade in. Yup! Advertisement Initially, only a blued finish was offered, but, befitting the gun, it wasn't just any blued finish. When I ETSed in 83 I bought a 6 stainless Python. June 30, 2020 By Keith Wood. Once the buying fever dies down Id like to buy one of those 6 inch models. The Colt Python is the legendary production revolver and requires no introduction. With .38 SPL target loads, recoil in either model new Python is very minimal and suitable for the most recoil adverse shooters. I knew they would sell out fast, and that it would likely be quite a while before the Colt marketing department got me a gun to review. And I was worried Hartford would screw it all up releasing a sub-standard Python. Colt designed the new Python to be a strong gun, capable of shooting numerous full-magnum rounds over the course of its life. Older people, and those with underlying medical problems like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory disease, and cancer are more likely to develop serious illness. Never liked Colts trigger action or grip design as much as Smith & Wesson. Seems to me that the Colt market has always been driven by collector and speculative interest, vs. performance for dollars spent. Colt redesigned the Python in order to reinforce the frame at the top where it gets stressed the most under fire to make it even more durable. The bullet has long left the barrel by the time your finger is moving out. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. The announcement of the new production Colt Python in 2020 was a surprise for many firearms fans, as the famous snake gun had been out of production since 2005. Ill read a few more reviews and decide if that government check should go to Colt. I find it on the castellated nuts on ARs. The Colt Python has retained its popularity even after remaining out of production for decades. Colt said that of all of the guns they had produced, only about 25 had been returned for any mechanical reliability issue. As always, I lubed the gun (in this case with the supplied Lucas Oil Gun Lube) prior to shooting. Its simply too bloody expensive for what you get. Hahahahha Classic Python style put six stars in this category before we even started. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? It continued in that manner through another 50 rounds or so, certainly didnt self-correct. Finish: Semi-Bright 38SPL P. First, let me say I was getting a little worried about Colt. Description. In January of 2020 a new Colt Python rolled out of the factory and it was the No. When I reviewed the new Colt King Cobra, I noted some concern over the cylinder end-shake, which measured at .003. I am completely up front about how big of a fan I am of Colt. The screws measured between 9 and 10 inch-pounds of torque required to loosen the plates. No one got a brick. As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. Eventually the initial frenzy will die down, and well see saner street prices for the new Python 2020. Theres lots more available travel for the firing pin without the transfer bar in the way. The Colt Officer Target pistols, especially in .22 and .32. To be clear, they said I needed to realize this guns(New Pythons) are 100% assembly lined manufactured, they are not tested, have no critical inspections, I would get they next one off the line with no testing or inspection and they would not replace or warranty the gun from there on out. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. I was really wondering about the new generation. They havent stuck a Hillary Hole on a Python yet to my knowledge? For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." The average worker in the US would shell out nine days wages to pay for a Python in 1956. Kelly Reilly portrayed the role of Beth Dutton, daughter of John Dutton in the series. There still seems to be some bugs to be worked out. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. We are of accord. YouTube has indeed changed our world . Pepperidge Farms remembers. 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