But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. eventAction: 'render' okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. What are your thoughts? You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. hitType: 'event', but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. but its hard not to be. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. }); I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ }); Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. Mamamoo - Solar. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. It is absurd. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. }); Red Velvet too. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . 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They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. You need to Register or Login to view the content And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ 1,068. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. }) its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. That worried him. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) ga('ads.send', { If you haven't, let me enlighten you. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . Why? As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. 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